025 – The Future in the Beginning

By December 20, 2017 One Comment

Brian Godawa returns to the show to continue a fascinating discussion we had earlier this year about Preterism and the likelihood that the majority of “end times” prophecies mentioned in the Book of Revelation, which millions of people around the world expect to be fulfilled in the future, have already been realized in the past. And if that’s not enough to pique your interest, there’s more!

We also talk about the mysterious entities known as “The Watchers” or “The Sons of God”, who are mentioned in mythological texts throughout the ancient Middle East and Mesopotamia. We try to gain a better understanding of the role they played in ancient cosmology and whether or not they have any influence in the world today. 

Additionally, we get Brian’s perspective on whether or not prophecies can have a “double fulfillment” or if history shows us that they’re always one and done. Then, to round out the episode, he shares his thoughts on the identity of the “two witnesses” mentioned in chapter 11 of the Book of Revelation. It’s an interpretation that I had never heard before and one that you’ll want to chew on for a while! 

You can find all of Brian’s work, including the latest book, “Remnant”, at

If you’d like to catch my first interview with Brian before jumping into this one you can find it as episode 14 at

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  • Devon says:

    Loved this. I heard you speak about history being cyclical. My 3 most influential current books are The Unseen realm by Dr Michael Heiser, The Fourth Turning by Strauss and Howe, and Before Jerusalem fell by Kenneth Gentry. I just discovered Godawa and am excited to read more. Great interview.